Saturday, May 30, 2009

Maybe That Was A Stretch

So cockfighting was okay as long as it was legal in Louisiana (until mid 2008)?
But dog fighting is wrong because it is illegal?


FreeMan said...

Hey the chicken is like 7 pounds and when they die it's like picking up a baby bird and throwing it in the trash after the mother rejected it. Now no one scoops up dead puppies on the regular so to me people are used to roosters dying because they are just chicken.

The media has made the dog man's best friend, Lassie, Benji and something paris hilton keeps in her purse. People kiss dogs on the mouth and have names for them like chi chi. People have pictures of dogs and treat them like part of the family. Maybe during the agricultural days people had a pet rooster but now we don't.

So when Vick fought those dogs the average american envisioned someone killing their teacup dog. That's why no one cares about the rooster because it doesn't see so horrific plus we eat them.

Max Reddick said...

Americans have a proclivity for piling on, kneejerk fashoin. I think people came out against Vick for many reasons, very few of them having anything to do with advocating for animals.

uglyblackjohn said...

@ FreeMan - So the leap from chicken to dog is easy to see (one is food the other 'Man's best friend'),
But the leap from dog to fetus is wide and deep (One is 'Man's best friend' while the other is (nothing?))?

@ Max - Yep. I think if Pookie down the block was fighting dogs, some people would have gotten upset but not demanded prison.

That Vick just signed a $130mil. contract... in the Heart of Dixie... for throwing a football - while Billy-Bob has to pin his hopes on a guy doing all these things for their team to win (Unless they cheer for the Hispanic quarterback led Cowboys - maybe that's not an option.) and hoping that the plant doesn't shut down.
Maybe the resentment by some of an 'other' being in a higher class was too much to handle.

Tairebabs said...

I have to go with what FreeMan said on this one. No one wants to see a puppie hurt but not many people think much about chickens except of course at the dinner table (roasted and ready to fill the belly!)

FreeMan said...

Hey I don't like abortions I'm all for it being addressed in a focused and financed manner to stop it from happening period. The abortion issue has more to do with population control and people not caring about the idea of abortion which is advertised as teenagers making mistakes.

In order to take the abortion issue off the table we need to talk to women so they can structure their own limits on it. We can't outlaw it when it is something that is truly a personal experience of that woman. As long as it framed as a woman having to stick a hanger to kill the fetus aka primitive ways a solution will never be found.

I don't think anyone likes the idea of abortion prolife or prochoice. It's just you can't get to a solution as long as it's not giving rules and limits that women create for theirselves.

uglyblackjohn said...

@ FreeMan - It was a question, not a statement.
Okay, let me ask it as a question;
Is the imagery of an abortion one that most people can deal with - while the imagery of dog fighting one that people are easily sickened by.
(Kind of like people giving up eating meat after seeing how it is processed.)

Not your personal beliefs - but as to your view of a large segment of society.

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FreeMan said...

As long as the image of abortion looks like blood plasma people can deal with it. The dogs you presented look mawled and thus you feel sorry. If the pictures have identifiable features like face, arms, and legs then people will not be able to deal with abortion. Find those pictures nad then you'll see the public doesn't want abortion at all. Because just like the dogs it just looks like evil cruelty.

Mr. Noface said...

These examples of animal cruelty will be treated equally when start eating Kentucky Fried Dog. Chickens, pigs, and cows don't get the same type of love that cats, rabbits, and dogs do!

RunningMom said...

"Is the imagery of an abortion one that most people can deal with - while the imagery of dog fighting one that people are easily sickened by."

No. Imagery of abortion isn't ok anymore than abuse of animals or children. Both make me physically ill.

Why the connection? Are you wondering why we don't jail women for getting abortions or why we jail people for abusing animals for sport?

uglyblackjohn said...

@ RunningMom - There really is no connection.
I was just wondering how people can get so upset with Vick and dog fighting - but many of those same people are the ones protesting for the Pro-Choice movement.

Foxbracken said...

I hate what people do to those wonderful animals; the animals loyalty is their strength, and weakness....
It's illegal to fight like boxes in public, yet, people do it for a sport. It's illegal to fight dogs, yet, people do it for a sport.
What is going on in the world? Can't people realize, this is destroying us bit by bit?!?!

Foxbracken said...

I apologize. I meant fighting dogs is a CRIME don't a sport. Cock fighting is exactly that, a CRIME, not a sport.