Thursday, December 3, 2009

Still Black

He's not ghetto.
He's not selling out.
He's just rapping what he knows, thinks, and feels from a perspective shared by those he cares about.

He's not beefin'.
He's not hatin'.
He's just rapping about his level creatin'

Mos Def?
Yes.

Smooth, slick and esoteric.
They're just bringing the classics to a classic
from a new tactic.
RES is a rocker.
But she ain't "Acting White".
But at one time,
wasn't all popular Black music considered rock?
So what's the point of all this?
Only that it's kind of funny reading blogs which feature two (or more) erudite brotha's (or sista's) arguing over who is "The Most Black".
"Who speaks for Black."
Or, "Who is really certified".
Really?
How can people who possess I.Q.'s of well over 160 still argue over something so trite?

10 comments:

CareyCarey said...

"who is "The Most Black".
"Who speaks for Black."
Or, "Who is really certified".
Really?
How can people who possess I.Q.'s of well over 160 still argue over something so trite?"

Uncle Black, you'll have to explain those questions a little deeper. I mean, are people arguing about this, or expressioning their opinions.

Are people actually arguing over "who is the blackest"?

Or are they saying a person is exhibing a behavior that doesn't set well with their "image" of a black person?

In any case, we as a culture are a mixed bag. Yet to be part of the culture, one would expect a certain amout of the culture be displayed though your behaviors, beliefs, character, walk, talk etc,. If those things are not intrinsic within the individual, then the "arguments" are valid. When I see people get defense about the race card being pulled on them, I question their own "insecurities" about being Black. Lets be real, some negroes want to be "black" but don't want to be associated with being "black". Now that's real. They want the good of "blackness" but "I ain't like them other blacks".

Your examples (pictures-celebs) moved so far away from your point, that one could be confused about your point of contention. A small few would question the blackness of those you displayed.

Put some real questionable negroes up there. Is black just a skin tone? Of course not!

BTW, you will not find many bloggers with IQ's of 160 or higher.

uglyblackjohn said...

Mine (IQ) was supposed to be fairly high.
The exageration was just to point out that these dudes were smarter than myself. (But I'd hazzard to guess that his site is one of the few with readers whose IQ's ARE above MENSA levels.)

This wasn't in reference to your spot - but there is a spot where this argument has been going on for a while now between two equaly brilliant men and it sounds as though it were Wayne Brady calling Byron Allen a coon.

I'm just amazed that these two learned men (and some women) still think a definition of Blackness (which was largely determined by whites) is the definition we should accept as our own.

FreeMan said...

At some point you have to put to take with a grain of salt anyone who writes a blog just like you do with a newspaper. Arguing over who is black and the like is just a exercise in BS and since it's on a blog its fair game.

It is the arguments of the powerless over the one thing they have some sort of power over. Otherwise it's not a big deal because they influence nothing.

CareyCarey said...

Okay Uncle Black, I get it. They had "qualifiers". Yeah, that's dumb.

It's like, if a person didn't do this, or dress like this, or talk like "that", then they were not black. Yep, that's some stupid mess.

re: my post. I thought my post rang with sarcasim. A "black like me" test is just plain stupid.

Btw, I got the race card pulled on me many times. In my younger years, they said I talked like a white boy.

uglyblackjohn said...

re: The race card.

I never have it pulled by those from the hood.
Usually, I get it from those who seem to still be somewhat aspirational ans still trying to prove their Blackness.

The thing is, I live in a town that is "Country Ghetto".
Today was usually rent day so I spent a lot of time in the hood.
I can walk from juke joint to juke joint with a pocket full of money and the locals will make sure I get home okay.

But my neighbors are more aspirational. To them, there are qualifiers for staying Black.
Many of their children failed to move foreward and instead fell into the Black=Thug trap, and many are doing time because their image of Black was what has been taught by those who hate them.

But the images being largely accepted as being "Black" was the point.
To me, Black is Black.

CareyCarey said...

"The thing is, I live in a town that is "Country Ghetto".

Man, I am feeling we're you're at on this topic. Yep, now you've drawn me closer. Not that I live in that sort of environment, but I know exactly what you are talking about.

I think you are saying the "norm" in that town/setting/neighborbood/mind set/... is all fu*ked up.

Man, let me tell, just last night I was in a room of fools. One fool said that he wasn't into all that education mess. And lord have mercy, ignorance jumped on the floor. You wouldn't believe how many negros championed that sh*t.

So yeah, I believe I know what you are talking about.

Hey, that address (invisable) didn't work.

uglyblackjohn said...

@ Carey - Just click her link on my blogroll.

RainaHavock said...

I miss Res whatever happen to her?

CNu said...

let me tug your sleeve a moment young jedi john.

CNu ended this argument years ago

schooling the padawan precursor to the grey conservative

everything else is merely conversation.

rotflmbao...,

uglyblackjohn said...

@ SeeNew - "communion of persons"?
Imma' steal that one.