Don't you know that when images such as these are being passed off as the "Best of Black" that even you begin to believe it?
Don't you know that Mo'Nique is not the most talented, best looking or most glamorous Black actress working today?
Don't you know that promoting the acceptance of this body type harms more Black people every year than do the Klan, Aryan Brotherhood and Skinheads combined?
C'mon, tell the truth fellas - this is not your ideal woman.
You might accept her, but you do not seek her.
While looks might be subjective - there are underlying health, societal and financial considerations to be taken as well.
C'mon ladies, be honest.
Would you rather have the flat stomach and fit thighs of Beyonce' or Melyssa Ford,
or would you prefer to have the body type of Oprah, Gabby or Mo'Nique?
How many of you ladies look at fat dudes and say, "Ummm, I gots to get me somma dat!"?
I don't know if people feel sorry for her or to me it's a woman judging women thing.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if people are saying she's beautiful because they don't want to pick on her being fat. Now some fatter women are pretty but Monique isn't one of them.
Now more harm than the Klan is a stretch but the fact that Monique makes people value women with really stretched pants is another kind of harmful.
UBJ--You starting to worry me! You seem fixated on our fat friend Monique!! (smile)
ReplyDeleteMonique may not be beautiful to you, but to many brothers she's gorgeous!! Plus her over the top personality is just what some men like!!
Personally I like her and I think she looks good at her size. But no matter what I think or you think, SHE thinks she looks good! And that's what actually counts.
In Mauritania and many countries in Africa where the western standard is not overwhelming, a woman her size is prized! It shows that she's eating, and that she's not starved.
Western standards of beauty are NOT the only standards, even here in America!
@D. Freeman, black man, ALL women ought to be valued, whether fat, thin, average weight or whatever.
NO one is valueless.
I don't have an aversion to Mo'nique to levels that UBJ does, but she is no way attractive to me (physically and metaphysically).
ReplyDelete@Anna - C'mon I'm not saying she isn't a person who has no value but if she is going to be put up as a centerfold on these magazine then I will determine her value.
ReplyDeleteAll Black women are valued but if they are asking me to look past the fact they are morbidly obese and lie and tell her she's what I want she is insane.
what's funny and coincidental is that i'm watching an episode of Divorce Court, where the husband is mad because his wife LOST weight! when the couple met, she was almost 300 lbs, and that is why he was attracted to her. he claims he "loves big girls". she lost over 200 lbs, and now he's all bent out of shape because she's thin now. so everyone has their preferences. heavier women are very much desired and pursued.
ReplyDeletehowever, i definitely agree that bigger women such as Mo'Nique and Gabourey Sidibe being praised can contribute to poor health choices, though. it's kind of a double-edged sword. on one hand, i think people should embrace who they are (physically), and not feel pressured to be that stick-thin standard that's rampant in the media. as long as you are healthy, i don't see a problem with being bigger.
on the other hand, i think a lot of big women are going about embracing their size the wrong way. it's good to be confident, but eating half a dozen donuts because you're "proud to be big", is not the way to go. so basically, the media praise for heavier women, has both positive and negative effects.
Morbidly obese is not attractive to me. Neither are hairy legs. So no thanks as far as Mo'nique.
ReplyDeleteThat aside though there is a serious problem with obesity in America and black people (especially Black women) suffer disproportionately from it. It's associated with diabetes, hypertension, cardiac arrest, stroke and cancer.
While there's certainly someone for everyone if they look hard enough I do wonder why so many of the black women portrayed in the media are morbidly obese. Nobody should be proud to be overweight or obese. All it means is that you are eating too much and not exercising enough. No one's body disobeys the laws of physics. If someone can't control something as simple as what they put in their mouth and how they move around, what else can't they get right.
This is not to say fat people are bad. It's just that unlike the rest of us, their failings are obvious to the casual observer.
@ FreeMan - The negative effects of of being obese kill more Black people yearly than the Klan.
ReplyDeleteBut this is just a case of people trying to be polite.
No one tells people that they suck anymore.
If a kid is failing in school, they lower the standards.
If a kid can't play baseball, they invent t-ball.
If America is getting fatter, they try to make being fat something possitive.
@ Anna - "...looks good at her size...".
Exactly.
You had to qualify her looks.
That's the same as when those from an older generation used to say, "Good for a Black person".
The standard often gets lowered when it comes to Blacks - even by many Blacks themselves.
I know all those stories about African cultures - but WE live in America.
@ NoFace - Is there any big girl who you find to be attractive?
(I have a few, but Mo just ain't one of them.)
@ lima - That guy just didn't want anyone else to have his girl.
Those guys think that if they can eliminate the competition that they won't have to up their own games.
@ Shady - Yep.
@UBJ
ReplyDeleteI haven't really thought about it. There have been a few women in my everyday life who were really pretty but just overweight (not morbidly obese though).
As far as celebrities go I guess someone like Megan McCain (I know...I Know), Toccara Jones, or Sara RamÃrez (she plays Dr. Torres on Grey's Anatomy).
There is no room for improvement on what Gawd and ample servings of rice and beans hath wrought with Nikki Gomez.
ReplyDeleteLook at her Uncle John and tell me you'd change ANYTHING about the way she t.i.is.......,
Uh uh SeeNew.
ReplyDeleteSOME women can carry their weight.
Two of those NoFace cites (SR and Toccara - I don't know about Ms McCain) ans Nikki being good examples.
These women look juicy not sloppy.
But many big women think that their slop looks juicy.
hmm..something about the comments bothers me. It's almost as if you are saying that you have to be "in shape" to be a good black person...I could just be upset because I am a fat black woman that feels (and has been told)that she is beautiful..most days, until the attitudes and comments start swirling around in the back of my head (slop). Yay therapy.
ReplyDeleteNo, sorry, I don't like fat.
ReplyDeleteIf a person is overweight because they have some health issues that is fair enough. However, if a person is overweight because they eat too much and no food can pass them by and they get no exercise, then there IS a problem.
Obese is NOT a good look.